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GM and Toyota don’t tie: GM wins – can Toyota ever get the prize?



 
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General Motors and Toyota have now both reported their global sales for last year.
 
At first, they reported 9.37 million, each.
 
That’s right, they tied. Or so it was reported.
 
But, then General Motors released the exact figures.
 
And it turned out there was a reason that Toyota was only releasing an approximate number.
 
The exact number released by GM was 9,369,524 vehicles. Toyota released only the rough number of 9.37 million and indicated that it will not release a more specific number because the real number was lower than that of GM.
 
Is it possible that this is as close as Toyota will ever get to besting GM in global sales?
 
The pundits think it’s only a matter of time, i.e., next year, before Toyota is number one. After all, Toyota did build more cars than GM in 2007.
 
But where have we heard about companies that build cars they can’t sell? Doesn’t it seem an oddly familiar refrain?
 
Reality seems to be intruding on Toyota. 
 
They may never quite make it to number one.
 
Toyota’s sales in its home market have been dismal for several years. General Motors seems to be doing a better job at exploiting the developing markets, particularly China, than Toyota. North American sales next year are likely to be lower overall than this year. But, GM has new products that are making sales gains. Toyota, in contrast, has the Prius, the Camry, and the Tundra. The Prius has probably sold most of its converts, the Camry has lost its luster, and the Tundra is on the verge of becoming the pick-up truck version of the Cracker Jacks prize, something you have to give away.
 
Despite predictions that United States sales next year will be about the same as those of this year, more and more industry observers expect sales to be lower, perhaps much lower. Toyota loses if this happens. In light of the new product offerings by GM and the bad reviews of the new Camry, both makers may end up losing about the same number of sales in the United States in 2008. That means that Toyota can’t gain numbers over GM in the United States.
 
So, it’s got to find the extra sales somewhere else.
 
But, where?


 
Japan’s market is declining – again. Toyota is the dominant car company in Japan. But sales were off there for the third year in a row, with no improvement in sight. But that doesn’t have any impact on GM. They don’t sell cars in Japan.
 
But GM sure does sell cars in China.
 
And sales in China may go up as much as 30% next year. GM figures to have a solid piece of that action, which gives it a big lead on Toyota in what has become the second largest car market. Toyota hasn’t been all that successful in China, perhaps because historically, Japan and China have been enemies. Japan didn’t win any friends in China during World War Two. 
 
Now the news gets worse. China’s the jumping off point for car companies that want to compete in India and the countries that the Indian manufacturers have targeted. GM, of course, is right there: GM’s Wulling joint-venture in China has been building cars for the Chinese market that it can easily develop into competitors for the new low-priced Tata. (In fact, Bob Lutz recently said that’s what they were doing, echoing what the boss of GM China had told TopSpeed.com several weeks ago.)
 
So, don’t bet on Toyota winning the battle next year, either.
 
GM, however, is using Toyota’s desire to overtake it as an incentive to spur on its employees.
 
John Middlebrook, who is the GM executive in charge of global sales and marketing, told GM employees: “Let me say that I like to win. And I know you do too. We still have 2008 in front of us and we will fight hard for every sale.” In a clear reference to Toyota, Middlebrook also pointed out that GM “beat our largest competitor in nine of the ten largest markets in the world. The market where it didn’t win is, of course, Japan – where Toyota’s sales were down, but where General Motors does not compete.
 
Beat Toyota in nine of ten markets.
 
You get the sense that they kind of enjoyed it, don’t you?




7 comments: GM and Toyota don’t tie: GM wins – can Toyota ever get the (...)


So the gm wins but, sure. GM not said the vibe is a american version of the matrix all spec made for toyota. And the GM hybrid tecnologhy or Toyota hybrid tecnologhy because Toyota made to GM. GM could not make its hybrid cars. How said robberse toyota has only 3 marks and GM more than 6. Ralph for that you don’t only compare Toyota and GM without their subsidiaries. It adds and it subtracts so alone this and you will see the difference. TOYOTA is the WINNER!!!!!
Posted on 01.29.2008

gm wins sure , but is the count fair . dont think so . how many car brands does gm make and how many brands does toyota make . in every part of the world the brand toyota wins from every brand gm makes . it is how you count . all the names of cars named in the artikel are from toyota and they are compared to chervolet, buick,pontiac,gmc,saturn,saab and cadillac . 6 against 1 thats not fair , but call yourself a winner and a number one . whatever makes you feel good.
Posted on 01.29.2008

it rings a bell
Posted on 01.29.2008

"haha you boys are tossers" does anyone remember this comment?
Posted on 01.29.2008

do you just make this rubbish up to make yourself feel better??? knob jockey
Posted on 01.29.2008

"Toyota released only the rough number of 9.37 million and indicated that it will not release a more specific number because the real number was lower than that of GM."

This from the official Toyota website: "In CY2007, TMC sold 9.366 million vehicles globally."

Yes, that’s still less than GM.

But Toyota did release their numbers. http://www.toyota.co. jp/en/news/08/0128.htm l

Posted on 01.28.2008

Ralph you are pathetic man... always ranting about Toyota.

You think GM’s cars in South America,China and India cost as much as their American counterparts? Their cars are cheaper since they are developing countries, GM sure isn’t going to get as much profit from those cars.

GM is the one that produces more cars than they can sell, not Toyota. Why do you think GM’s profits are in the red ink? Camrys still sell well, what are you talking about? You see more Camrys on the road than Malibus, Fusions, Impalas, Sebrings combined. Tundras being given away? No you are confusing the Tundra with Chrysler’s products.

Besides GM has had what 100 years to become #1? It took Toyota what 50 years to be #2?Toyota will become number one you just can’t face reality and have to post these ridiculous articles. Toyota is so close to beating GM and yet you think they can’t? And Toyota obviously is going to try and tap into those developing countries.

Posted on 01.28.2008

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