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Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show

nissan skyline gt-rs at the 2009 sema show

The Nissan GT-R is by all means a bona fide super car and , however for anyone who is too old to have used a Playstation has been left in the dark about the cars that made those three letters so significant over the past two decades. That is because the most contact most people in the U.S. had with a Nissan Skyline GT-R was when playing Gran Turismo, or at an auto extravaganza like SEMA, and there were two fine examples on display this year in the Las Vegas Convetion Center. These were ultra exotic all wheel drive sports cars powered by a revolutionary low displacement high revving twin turbocharged straight six that pushed the Japanese Government’s limits with a reasonably priced package that was able to trump quite a few super cars of its day. Adding to the lore of the old Skyline GT-R; the ones that did make it to America with a DOT approval all came from the same import company, and they were found out to be crooked.

In 1989 the Japanese automaker revived the GT-R nameplate from the 1970s with the R32 Nissan Skyline GT-R. At the time the GT-R was a two door version of Nissan’s popular Skyline luxury sedan, something we were introduced to in America as the Infiniti G35 some years later. Back in the ’90s Nissan had to advertise their budget super car at 280 PS (275 HP) but Godzilla has been dyno’d to reveal closer to 350 HP coming from the RB26DETT under the hood. What was even better is that these car’s could easily be boosted to produce closer to 500 HP and there are even a few recorded 1000 HP runs by tuners who never had to crack the head gasket. In the U.S. the baddest car you could buy and then modify was a Toyota Supra, there are even models that can race against a Suzuki Hyabusa and win at 150 MPH, in Japan they said that when you got over your Supra you bought a GT-R.

This year’s SEMA Show featured two of the latter examples, one white on gold R33, a model that was made from 1995-1998 and got more curves and a bigger turbo. The other jaw dropping piece of high performance machinery was the highly coveted six speed R34, although Nissan ended production of the car in 2001 they came back with a rare proposition for 2004. Celebrating the twentieth anniversary of Nissan Motorsport International, the manufacturer offered to buy back 20 low mileage models which were stripped down and rebuilt to be Z tune GT-Rs. Making 600 PS from a race engine and shod with a set of beautiful black GT500 style Volk racing TE-37s, simply exquisite. Although the late model Rotora car is wearing a different set of wheels, it does have the Z tune style fenders with the vents at the top. It’s tuners cars like these that gave the GT-R its super car credibility; so now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

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27 comments: Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show


i’m not trying to say either is superior to the other bc both of the cars have their strong points and both are iconic of the jdm flagship. they both are incredible performance machines and each have their own weaknesses and strengths. i’m simply refuting your overgeneralized statement saying that the skyline is the supra wannabe seeing that the skyline also came long b4 the supra so wouldn’t that make the supra a skyline wannabe or whatever your comment stated? since the skyline has been around since 1957 and the supra was introduced in the late 70’s?
Posted on 12.2.2009

ok but my point being you’re saying the LF-A is the new supra however the LF-A is a 300k plus sports car where as the supra was affordable to the everyday person. the supra sported a FR setup with a 3 liter inline six. not a RR 4.8 liter v-10. the engines are not even remotely the same. the setup only shares the rwd platform. and you were comparing the U.S. model supra that lapped the ring faster than the skyline which was restricted by japanese governing laws where the supra you’re comparing was not. however if you took the time to read my comments fully you would have realized that. the 320bhp supra was not governed by american law where as the skyline was limited at 280ps or roughly 276bhp. if you were to compare the jdm supra with the skyline you would realize that the skyline would be superior in grip acceleration gas mileage the works... the only thing the supra may have the skyline beat in statistically would be on the skidpad and the slalom but thats only bc a portion of the skyline’s power IS sent to the front wheels taking power away from the rear hence it being beat in the skidpad and the slalom.
Posted on 12.2.2009

If the GTR is so much better suited to the track than the LFA, then why are its lap times significantly slower? And if you think that an unmodded Skyline could out-perform an unmodded Supra on the track, then you’re wrong. Unless you’re racing in the rain with the Skyline’s AWD, their lap times are practically the same, with the Supra being slightly faster. The R34 Skyline V-Spec did the Nurburgring in 7:41; the Supra - both unmodified - in 7:39, and two seconds is really nothing, anyway. On some tracks the Supra would be faster, on others the Skyline. The Supra is far superior because Nissan quality simply cannot compete with Toyota.
Posted on 12.2.2009

also i dont recall you comparing the luxuries of the LF-A in your earlier posts but rather bragging about its performance characteristics as would any person on an automotive website. we all know a lexus is more luxurious than a nissan. hence nissan having infinity as its luxury brand and lexus being toyota’s luxurty brand so really when you made the first comparison between the GT-R and the LF-A then you were as you say comparing "apples" to "apples" why not look at the 200,000 dollar price difference before you start making comparisons. my arguement WAS that the GT-R is the affordable super car the out classes competitors triple its price. you however are simply making my statement correct that it is a budget super car that can take on competition three times its price by argueing with me and saying the LF-A is better thanks.
Posted on 12.2.2009

0-60 time as well as 70-150 time is more important than the top speed you were bragging about. i only commented on it in reference to your comments. also the awd on the GT-R is far superior to the rear wheel drive set up on any car as far as track vehicles are concerned. also a faster 0-60 time references quicker acceleration response time which also hints towards a superior suspension set up, usuable powerband and traction which are all key in track races such as the ring. also your LF-A’s time at the ring isn’t confirmed. the GT-R may be rated at 3.6 but was tested to show 3.3 just as the older skylines were rated at 280bhp and 290 lb/ft of torque but many engines showed over 320bhp. and quicker acceleration than what was said for marketing purposes. also the LF-A was brought up by other people hence me now saying hey "UNCIA" or whatever your name is. i didn’t call you specifically out. also the old supra may be a drag king but at track an unmoded skyline would take an unmoded supra any day. also you’re comparing the american version of the supra to the skyline which in all reality isn’t a fair comparison bc of the laws restricting cars to 280ps or roughly 276 bhp in japan. the jdm supra was also limited to 280ps but the american model was rated for 320 and unrestricted as far as power levels are concerned. had an american version of the skyling been produced, the boost on the turbos would have been higher than the measly 5.7 psi rating that they were restricted to in japan.

b4 you start shouting out the quotes and "facts" you’ve read on forum pages and other websites you should try reading up on some credible sources

Posted on 12.2.2009

I’m not going to bother my self if I got into war, but I have to say that the best decent japanes design at that time, even now we haven’t seen any new supra & they’re still canceling alot of models was planned before, The only new one so far is the New Gt-r! there is no New NSX or RX7 & Supra at this time.

I admit supra, it’s one of the best japanese sport looking cars but to say the gt-r’s are supra wannabes are just so wrong against Gt-r fans.

Posted on 11.30.2009

Are you very, very young? The GT-R’s 0-60 time of 3.3 was reported by a magazine; Nissan posts its time as 3.5, which is tested with one driver. The LFA’s 3.6 second time (gee, a 5 mph difference in top speed isn’t important but a 1/10 sec difference in 0-60 is, huh?) was tested by Lexus with two passengers, so if you’re going to compare apples to apple here the LFA is faster to 60. But that doesn’t matter too much, anyway, as you need to stop basing your knowledge on video game laps and realize that 0-60 isn’t all that matters on a track. And the LFA’s much higher price than the GT-R is not due to its higher top speed, as any intelligent person knows that top speed is not all that matters in a car. The LFA is the fastest nurburgring car in the world and a luxury cruiser at the same time, combining the performance of McLaren, the luxury of Aston Martin, the exclusivity of Bugatti and the reliability of Toyota, while the Nissan is a budget supercar for four. They are completely different types of automobiles, and just because they are both fast does not make them comparable. And as for the Koe segg’s higher top speed than the LFA, show me one track in the world (VW’s private test facility not withstanding) where you will actually hit 200 mph during a lap, let alone 250. And as for you’re statement that the CCXR was developed with top speed as a primary goal doesn’t mean that that’s all it’s good for - the hardly race-dependable R35 which you love so much was developed with the sole purpose of beating the 911 turbo, and even a Nissan-hater like me can see that it can accomplish much more than that. The CCXR was up until now the greatest supercar out there, and the LFA is the only car that can compete with it in terms of performance and luxury as far as I’m concerned.

Oh, and about you’re abnoxious fuel efficiency comment, if you would have actually bothered to read my comment you would realize that I was comparing the Supra and the R34 - not the LFA and the R35.

Posted on 11.29.2009

last i checked the r35 gtr posted a 0-60 time of 3.3 which happens to be faster than the LF-A’s time of 3.7 sec. the LF-A also costs in the 300k range as posted by car and driver. Also you can only rent the car for 2 yrs. then it is available for purchase..."all 500 units are being leased for 2 yrs" its top speed may beat the gt-r by a "staggering" 5 mph. for me i dont seen $200,000.00 justifying 5 mph difference. also they havn’t released any fuel ratings on the new LF-A yet so how can it be more fuel efficient than the GT-R and if you knew anything about engineering a 9000rpm redline v-10 can not possibly acheive better gas mileage than a twin turbo v-6... well if you plann on actually using the car to its full potential anyways. the koe segg may be better than all the other european cars in terms of performance around a track. ie. braking skidpad etc. but it was specifically designed to acheive a higher top speed than the mclaren F1 which it did. also if you’re going to compare a LF-A to the koe segg you should consider the 40+ mph difference in the top speed
Posted on 11.29.2009

Lol Supra wannabes...
Posted on 11.29.2009

You can see the layers of disguise all over the dashboard, but if you could see more of the interior you’d know that it is nearly producton-spec. As far as I was informed they took this video when they had finalized everything but the suspension, which when altered gave it its 7:13 lap, also with traffic.
Posted on 11.27.2009

Uncia I took a look at hte video and its impressive but that does not seem like a production model the interior is waay to different from the one that was unveiled
Posted on 11.27.2009

The link to the LFA lapping the Nurburgring in under 7:23 with traffic is on my page. For whatever reason it wouldn’t let me post it as a comment, so I just entered the link into an article.
Posted on 11.26.2009

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Posted on 11.26.2009

The Koe segg not only has a high top speed but also handles better than any other Euorpean sportscar, nd has a very well-furnished interior. It is the LFA’s real competitor. And Natarade, if the Skyline is "better in every way", then name one. I’ll name ten:

it’s faster through a slalom

it’s faster to 60 mph

it brakes faster

its Nurburgring times are slightly quicker

it has a more luxurious interior and superior ride quality

it’s the more reliable of the two by far

it’s more fuel-efficient and more powerful

it has the record for most records broken

it costs less to maintain as well as to insure

it has a higher top speed

Posted on 11.26.2009

Im not going to get into that
Posted on 11.26.2009

R34 is still superior to 1998 Supra in every way.
Posted on 11.26.2009

ok but I thought the Koe segg was for topspeed

anyway good you cleared it up and there are articles all over the place that says the LF-A is only for lease im not making this up

Posted on 11.26.2009

When I said Supra wannabes I was talking about the R33/34, which never matched the American-spec Supra on any racetrack. And it wasn’t a few seconds between the R35 and LFA - it was 16 seconds, and it was a production model on stock tires. No video of Lexus’ 7:13 run exists, but their is one of it doing about 7:20 with traffic, which is still faster than the ACR or Nissan by quite a ways. I forgot where it was exactly but I’ll post the link when I find it. But the GT-R doesn’t compete with the LFA anyway - the GT-R is a budget supercar for four, and the LFA is a Koe segg-killing, ultra-exclusive racecar that doesn’t tear itself apart after being launched a few times. Saying that the LFA (which you can purchase flat-out, by the way) is inferior because of its price is like saying you don’t like Ferraris because they’re too exclusive.
Posted on 11.26.2009

oh and also I own a toyota

but its a Rav4 =( im just kidding its a fun suv and to say the truth I also have a nissan but it doesnt compete with rav4

Posted on 11.26.2009

Me leaning to toyota in a lot of there products I have to say the GT-R is not a supra wannabe

First lets take out the fact about the LF-A , It can only be leased as naterade said, I love the price tag, and Uncia stop going around saying it holds the nurburgring record or has beat the GT-R, It hasnt been confirmed and the record lapping LF-A is not the retail version, Even if it was it is not worth over double tthe GT-R price tag for a few seconds.

How much praise has the GT-R got like honestly have you been on this planet the last year or so.

now I am not bashing toyota I love the supra I loved the Supra RZ 1997 I have driven them on more then one occasion and there amazing. I have never driven the GT-R of that time.

What I am trying to say is that this GT-R is 2009 it cant be a supra wannabe as a matter of fact what makes more sense is that the LF-A is a GT-R wannabe, an expensive GT-R wannabe

I just wanted to put my 2 cents in and naterrades resolution makes sense

Posted on 11.26.2009

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