Ever since the Toyota-Subaru joint venture that netted three different models – Subaru BRZ, Toyota GT 86, and Scion FR-S – there have been speculations, rumors, and whispers of potential forced induction for these triplets. Recently an unnamed “source” informed our colleagues over at Car and Driver that “for the time being” the BRZ and FR-S will remain naturally aspirated and pumping out 200 horsepower.
The report went on to say that a turbocharged BRZ is a possibility in the future, but there is no way the FR-S will ever receive forced induction. The source also mentioned that the GT 86 could potentially get some added PSI into the intake. The reason being, according to this “source,” is because the Scion is considered an entry-level sports car and a turbocharger would push its $24,930 base price to near $30,000. At that price, most Scion buyers may start dreaming of a BMW 1-series or something a little more upscale. The Subaru and Toyota, on the other hand, cater to higher-end customers.
Being the car buffs that we are and lovers of a little forced air, this is a depressing thing to hear. It also slightly confuses us a little, as we don’t quite see how adding a turbocharger can pump the base price up $6,000. Even if it did approach those higher cars, like the 1-Series, a boosted FR-S would certainly pump out more power than the base 1-Series and is definitely a more fun car to drive.
So here’s to hoping that the three automakers come together and find a way to make a turbocharged version of all three models. A boosted model would likely have a massive impact on Scion’s popularity too. Heck, it may even get that nasty taste out of people’s mouths that the xB and xD models left behind.
The Toyota GT 86, Scion FR-S, and Subaru BRZ are inching closer to getting a release date, and the lucky dogs over at Edmunds managed to get their hands on an FR-S a little early. Being the true car buffs that they are, what’s the first thing they did with it? They threw it on the dyno, of course!
You may be alarmed wondering why they are dyno testing a car that we all know produces 200 horsepower. Well, that’s not always the case. See, 99.9 percent of the time, automakers release horsepower numbers based off of the engine’s power, not the entire car. On average, you can expect to lose 10 to 20 percent of the horsepower through the driveline – transmission, driveshaft, and differential.
So what was Edmunds’ final determination of its horsepower? It was nothing short of impressively consistent. It repeatedly produced 173 horsepower at roughly 7,000 rpm and 143 pound-feet of torque at about 2,800 rpm. Not only were the peaks identical, but the horsepower and torque curves were nearly identical on every run.
To have that kind of consistency in a car is a testament to just how much engineering went into it. This also proves that the 2.0-liter flat-four that Subaru and Toyota collaborated on is truly a work of art to crank out 173 wheel horsepower. There are not too many sub-$30K four-bangers hitting that kind of horsepower consistently without the use of some forced air.
There is one very odd thing in this engine that again shows how much engineering went into it. At about 4,000 rpm you will see a 14-percent drop in torque, which the Subaru and Toyota engineers intentionally did to allow greater torque on the lower rpm range. Our collective hats go off to the team of engineers that developed this car. Now, can we just get a hold of a turbocharged model, please?
Technically speaking, this car can be called the Scion FR-S Speedster with the only caveat being that this hot convertible wasn’t made by Scion.
The brains behind this vehicle are the folks from Cartel Customs, which took a standard FR-S sports coupe and took off the roof, as well as made a host of other aerodynamic modifications. In order to fully commit to the roadster look, Cartel Customs added a number of new components, including a custom hood, custom fenders, a 61" carbon fiber wing, a sporty rear deck lid, tinted headlights, a custom paint finish, a custom bespoke interior, and a new set of 18" wheels. Other enhancements done on the overall set-up of the FR-S include an upgraded clutch, a new exhaust system, Wilwood brakes, and an improved suspension set-up.
No word yet on what kind of performance enhancements the FR-S Speedster has under its hood, but we do expect it to retain its 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine. Whether it has its standard 200-horsepower and 151 lb/ft of torque figures still remains to be seen.
The Scion FR-S Speedster will be making its public debut at the Long Beach Grand Prix on April 13, 2012 where it will drive parade laps leading up to the event’s opening ceremonies.
While we were polishing our photography skills at the 2012 Fort-Lauderdale Auto Show, we had our first contact with the new 2013 Subaru BRZ. The Subaru/Toyota love child exceeded our expectations in all aspects. At first glimpse it looks very low to the ground, which is a good thing considering both manufacturer wanted this vehicle to have the lowest center of gravity in this market segment, even lower than the Porsche Cayman. All exterior design elements such as headlights, tail lights, wings and bumper look very high quality and all body panel fit nice and tight. After waiting our turn behind a long line of enthusiasts, we jumped inside and again bulls eye. The seating position is sporty and low to the ground as we hoped. Knobs and other controls are made out of high quality material and you would not think the car will cost in the mid to high $20k.
The overall feel is very close to the mazda miata, a little tight but exactly what we needed to go to the track on the cheap.
We overheard that the production will be limited, sales pitch or not, and the delivery will take approximately 10 weeks, if you act fast. The convertible versionS should reach our shore in the fall of 2012.
Check out the video and the picture gallery but if you remotely want to buy one, you better hurry to place your order because it was definitely the star of the show. So many people wanted to sit in it, the Subaru people had to lock it up after only 2 hours of public display!
Now that the GT 86 has officially been revealed in all three of its versions - Toyota, Scion, and Subaru - the car’s lead engineer, Tetsuya Tada, has confirmed that a convertible version will follow in the near future: "The GT 86 was designed from the outset that we can build it as a convertible."
Considering the Coupe model isn’t even for sale yet - it will be available in Spring 2012 - we don’t expect to see the Convertible anytime before next year. When it does come out, it will be offered on the Japanese market first, as a Toyota GT 86 Convertible, and the markets in the rest of the world will then follow.
All the technology and the design language will be borrowed from the coupe, except that the rear seat area will most likely be dropped. Under the hood, we’ll see the same 2.0 liter, naturally-aspirated petrol engine with 200 HP.
Prices for the future Scion FR-S Convertible will probably stand at about $2000 above the Coupe model, so it should be anywhere above $30,000.
UPDATE 03/07/2012: Here’s our rendering for the upcoming Scion FR-S Convertible. What do you think?
Scion only recently unveiled the FR-S sports car - the American version of the Toyota GT 86 - and their racing arm is already unleashing the FR-S Race Car - a racing prototype developed in cooperation with GReddy. The Scion FR-S Race Car made its debut at the 2012 Detroit Auto Show, but will be making its racing debut in the 2012 Formula DRIFT series with veteran driver, Ken Gushi, behind the wheel.
The FR-S Race Car was obviously inspired by the street version, but it will be further adopted for the race track. It will get an improved aerodynamic kit, racing livery, a larger rear wing that will maintain stability at high speeds, and of course, a racing oriented interior with a roll cage that will ensure security in case of a crash. The most impressive part, however, is that the FR-S Race Car will develop an impressive 600 HP - up from the car’s standard 200 HP.
Subaru has already announced plans to unveil an STI version of their new BRZ sports car and Toyotahas confirmed plans for a supercharged version of the GT 86. But what about Scion? Until now, the company hasn’t said anything about a more powerful version for their FR-S. Of course, this doesn’t mean we won’t see one because if Scion doesn’t bring an updated FR-S, there are always tuners available to get the job done.
A few days after the FR-S model’s official debut, tuning firm Greddy showed up at the Cars & Coffee event in Irvine, CA with a sporty FR-S. The tuner prepped the car by installing a prototype Type-S coil-over suspension, a big brake kit, and a Spectrum Elite SE exhaust system. Nothing was updated for the FRS’ 2.0-liter front boxer engine so it will still deliver 200 HP and 151 lb-ft of torque. After that, they added the obligatory new set of wheels with high performance 19" Volk Racing G12 wheels wrapped in Hankook V12 tires. Nothing extensive was done on the exterior or interior of the car, but GReddy did provide a custom "F-Sport" inspired black and blue color combination for both.
UPDATE 01/06/12: The first official photos of the Greddy-tuned Scion FR-S has been revealed. You can check out the US-bound sports car in all its Greddy digs in the gallery below. Be warned, though. The car looks hotter than we thought it would be.
Hit the jump to watch the Greddy FR-S rev its engine in California.
Now, we know we have already seen two concepts- FT-86 and FT-86 II - for this vehicle, but will have to endure one more as Toyota has brought us yet another FT-86 concept. This time it has been revealed at the New York Auto Show under the Scion badge and it won’t go into production until Toyota finally brings their production version later this year at the Tokyo Motor Show. The Scion FR-S Concept is a preview version of a new model coming to the Scion brand next year.
"Scion is always experimenting with new things," said Jack Hollis, Scion vice president. "The brand is iconic with the xB, adrenalized by the tC, and groundbreaking with the iQ. The FR-S will expand the brand into yet another new dimension that I know it is truly destined for."
Like with the other Toyota model, the Scion model is being inspired by the AE86 generation of the Corolla, better known as the Hachi-Roku, meaning "8-6" in Japanese. The concept is being built on a rear-wheel-drive platform and is powered by a 2.0-liter boxer front engine that can be mated with either a six-speed manual or a six-speed automatic transmission.
UPDATE 04/28/2011: Toyota has revealed a new video showing off the Scion FR-S concept’s revving engine. The sound should be the same or very similar for all three Scion FR-S / Toyota-Subaru FT-86 cars since they will all feature the same Boxer engine and exhaust setup. Hit the jump for the video.
UPDATE 05/20/2011: Testing is still underway for the Scion FR-S, and while it was circling the track, spy photographers were able to get a shot of the newly fitted and massive wing attached to the back. Seems a little exaggerated to us, but hey, we’ve waited so long to see this car in action that we will take just about anything they throw at us at this point. Check out the video after the jump.
UPDATE 06/24/2011: Scion has unveiled a new video of their latest FR-S concept in which Ken Gushi - a resident Scion Racing driver - talks about about the Scion FR-S concept car and what it means to him. For those that don’t recognize the name, Gushi started his driving career in the iconic Toyota AE86 also known as the "hachiroku". The AE86 is important because the FR-S is modeled after the prime drifting vehicle.
UPDATE 11/10/2011: SEMA may be all about tuning projects, but next to a bunch of updated iQs, Scion also took the opportunity to show us the FR-S Concept. Check out the gallery to see all of the live images from the show.
Hit the jump to read more about the Scion FR-S Concept.
Gotta love those leaked documents! Whether this document was actually leaked by a stealth insider or Toyota is trying to get ahead of Subaru in the FT-86 game, the new Toyota FT-86’s (or Scion FR-S as it will be sold in the US market) specifications have been secretly released to the world. This comes about two months ahead of the official Subaru and Toyota/Scion debuts in December at the Tokyo Motor Show.
The new FT-86 will be powered by a 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine with a total output of 197 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 150 lb-ft of torque at 6,600 rpm, as well as a fuel economy of 31.52 mpg. The numbers are a bit disappointing, but what’s impressive is the car’s total weight: only 2,662 lbs.
The FT-86/FRS will be offered in two versions: High Spec and Low Spec. The top version has front LED lights, a leather steering wheel, 6 audio speakers (low spec has 2 speakers), a white rev counter with shift light, and sport pedals. The High Spec model also has "smart entry and start" and 17" wheels. The Low spec model gets 16" wheels.
That’s all she wrote for now, but stay tuned as the official debut in Tokyo gets closer and Subaru and Toyota get more anxious to reveal their secrets!
The Toyota/Subaru FT-86 creation has been buzzing about the internet since the two announced their partnership, but after months of concepts and hearsay, a Subaru source has provided a bit of official information about the new sports car. The FT-86 will be arriving in the U.S. badged as a Scion FR-S and will feature one of the lowest centers of gravity of any vehicle out on the market. It will actually be right behind the Porsche GT3 and the Ferrari 458, thanks to the boxer engine provided to Toyota by Subaru. Subaru’s boxer engine has a flat, low profile that balances weight efficiently and provides quick handling response and flat, confident cornering.
We’re expected to see debuts of all the FT-86 variants when the Tokyo Motor Show opens its doors in December 2011 so we’ll have more details on those models at that time. Subaru’s version of the FT-86 is also being considered for an STI version which could come sporting a new generation, naturally aspirated (not turbocharged as with other STI models) 2.0-liter, four-cylinder boxer engine.
Speaking of the STI, Subaru sources also say that the new STI will take at least two years before coming to the market and will be drastically different from the base Impreza. In fact, this is part of Subaru’s plan to separate their conventional models from their performance models. The Impreza was put together with an eye out for economy, but the STI will be a different beast altogether. It will get its own engine, one that will have nothing to do with the Toyota engine created for the FT-86 project and will make it easier for Subaru to market the vehicle as a performance model. No specific figures were given, but we expect the new STI to carry a turbocharged version of the 2.5 liter boxer engine with more than 305 HP on tap. The engine will be mated to a fully synchronized close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission.