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if it come electric i would but if both are gas id take the smart

actually id take none of them a nice small car is something like a mini cooper smaller than that doesnt seem proper

"The fun to drive Korean automaker is also working on a few other possible power train combinations that will be offered sometime in the future."

Terence, Suzuki is and ever since a Japanese company. Please get your facts straight...

That light going down the back window is stupid. It hinders your rear visibility and is harder for other cars to see.
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Nice-looking competitor for the RX-8.
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I’d take this over a smart any day.
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They need IS-Fs instead.
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OMG...that’s stunning!!!

Since i can’t afford an 8C, and I prefer a coupe, it looks like that may just be my ride when AR finally comes back to the US!

Unless of course, it only comes in FWD and automatic trans.

cause people from dubai got a lot of money and they don’t know what to do with it =D
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Ditto on that. Perhaps the confusion lies in the Former Daewoo cars that were from Korea that GM snuck in the back door by labeling them Suzukis?
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Suzuki is a JAPANESE company, NOT Korean..........
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A quick trip to the BMW site shows they have 24 models that achieve 25 mpg or more. This doesn’t include any diesels. All this talk about gas-guzzling, I expected to find they were just getting 5 or 10 mpg. I see that the BMW 750i sedan sports a 4.4L V-8 that achieves more than 20 mpg. Not bad for a small V-8 four-door sedan.

You mentioned somewhere in so many words that BMW wasn’t Green enough.

See this topspeed article: Bmw 118d receives 2008 World Green Car Award

They don’t give out these awards Willy-Nilly. Whoever gets an award like this has to jump through some gigantic hoops. I know you will want to review this article, even though Prius wasn’t mentioned. Now don’t tell me BMW gave the award to themselves??

See also this topspeed article: Prius Overhyped? BMW 5 Series Diesel Gets Better Mileage, Posted on 03.17.2008 09:47 by

Ralph Kalal

"Here’s the test which The Times put the two through:

Both cars were driven from London to Geneva, “using motorways and town driving.” That’s a direct route of 460 miles, but the

newspaper added an additional 100 miles of urban driving, specifically to give the Prius an advantage through use of its

hybrid drivetrain in the in-town setting in which it works best. (But even with this "advantage" the Prius still ran out of

gas. Sorry, I couldn’t resist. 50cal)

Results?

50.3 mpg for the FULL-SIZE BMW equipped with a four cylinder diesel.

48.1 mpg for the (compact) Prius.

Bottom line: drive a Prius if you’re looking to make a politically correct statement, but don’t presume to believe that you’

ve found the only true way to save fuel or reduce emissions – or even the best way."

Now, AK47, I know you’ve seen this article about 16 months ago. I saw your post there, so I know you must realize that the

BMW/Prius economy test drive included over 17% driving in an urban environment to quiet the whining from those Prius weenies.

And you and I know who some of them are, don’t we? 8-)

Here is your post from that site on this article: "AK 47 (6755) - Posted on 03.17.2008 While diesel is more enviromentally friendly, it is not completely safe. I agree with Dan and Kingtiger- the price factor

also has to be taken into account. And BMW, stop trying to show people that you are concerned about about the enviroment,

because BMW cars have the highest fuel guzzling rates, what with their large engine capacity(in litres), but they still have

crappy performances. The only people who actually seem to have the enviroment in mind are(whether you like it or not) the

Japanese and Audi, who are also developing high performance diesel racing cars."

I don’t blame you for considering the price. I’d do the same but the fact remains that the snobbish BMW beat out the Prius. Did

you see the comparison between the Prius and the VW Jetta? Check it out on u-tube. Look for "Jetta Takes on Prius: Toyota

Prius vs. VW Jetta TDI Diesel"

AK47 (805), Posted on 07.30.2009

"There are a number of things I would like to point out but I am a little pressed for time."

50cal "I get that way too but this is important. Right?"

AK47: "One, trucks use diesel engines because diesels have massive amounts of low end torque that no gas engine will ever

have."

50cal: "Electric motors and steam engines also have massive amounts of torque at low speed. The real reason that large

trucks, ships, locomotives, etc. use diesel as a fuel is that it is more economical than gasoline. A Prius uses gasoline, a

diesel does not. I might add here that a locomotive is really a hybrid. It uses a large diesel engine to turn a generator or

alternator to charge batteries which power electric motors which make it go. Why not a Prius with a bit more quality, better

handling, less complication, and a diesel engine. Then I would be happy with it. OTW I would probably opt for a Jetta/Golf."

AK47: "Two, check out the price of a Prius versus a BMW. And check the reliability also."

50cal: "No doubt, Toyota has good quality control but BMW must be doing something right, unless all the buyers are simply

snobs. Besides if we go to the quality thing I suspect we can’t compare a $50,000 car with a $23,000 car and expect the same

quality."

AK47: "Three, (and you lost all credibility with this one) fair and square test? A test that didn’t include urban driving and

was in all probability carried out by BMW itself."

50cal: "Nope, wrong again. It was the newspaper that instigated the test. I think they were just trying to prove a point and

did a darned good job of it. A more fair test might have been a VW Jetta vs. the Prius on the same road trip since the two

cost about the same and have similar quality. In fact the Jetta is actually lower cost. See the u-tube video. Besides, now I

know you’re just trying to get my goat. You already knew about the urban segment as I’ve stated above."

AK47: "And no, I wouldn’t take a snobby BMW or a Prius on a long haul. I’d find the biggest gas guzzler I could find and

drive that."

50cal: "Now, now, AK. Don’t be waffling on me now. I thought you were for the green cars and not the guzzlers??"

Hideous, why would anyone do this?
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its been so long

when will a mass production manufacturer dethrone the veyron