There could be lots of potential here....

Honda has finally revealed details about the new Civic Si, just a week after its torque output was leaked via e-mail and I criticized Honda for making it a glorified grocery getter. Well, as it turns out the leaked information was accurate, as the new Si – in coupe and sedan form – delivers 205 horsepower and 192 pound-feet of torque. That makes it the most powerful and the torquiest Si in Civic history, but doesn’t do much to fill the gap between the non-Si Civic in range-topping form and the wicked Type R. To put things into perspective, the ninth-generation Civic Si delivered 201 horsepower and 170 pound-feet from a naturally aspirated, 2.4-liter, four-banger.

That accounts for an increase of four horsepower and 22 pound-feet from a much smaller engine, but there’s more to it than that. Honda hasn’t gone into specifics as to its official curb weight as of yet but has said that it’s “significantly lighter” than its predecessor. This is also the first Civic Si to come from the factory with a turbocharger in tow, which means that maximum horsepower and torque is available much lower in the powerband. It’s also sporting an adaptive power steering system, short-throw six-speed tranny, sport-tuned suspension with active dampers, a limited-slip differential and 18-inch wheels as standard equipment.

Jeff Conrad, the Senior VP of American Honda’s automobile division, said, "The 2017 Honda Civic Si is our first turbocharged Si and sets a new sporty compact benchmark in terms of agility and precise handling while building toward the launch of the Type R as the final chapter in our epic 10th-generation Civic story."

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Maybe It’s Not A Glorified Grocery Getter

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So, the Civic Si is lighter than ever before and is more powerful. It’s been designed to perform, but not quite as much as a lot of us hoped. It’s not all about power when it comes to the Si, though. Inside, the car gets red sport stitching, Si logos, a red TFT display and electronic illumination, aluminum sport pedals, and a few other goodies borrowed from the range-topping non-Si Civic. A seven-inch infotainment display is placed within the center stack and provides phone connectivity, navigation, and connects to 450-Watt speaker setup. In the end, it really is pretty well appointed for a car that will get a sticker somewhere in the mid-$20,000 range, but I’m still convinced that Honda could have done a little better.

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It’s been designed to perform, but not quite as much as a lot of us hoped. It’s not all about power when it comes to the Si, though.

We’ve been deprived of the Civic Type R here in the States for a long time, so from my point of view, the Civic Si still resonates through the mind as the performance Civic to have. So, it’s a bit disappointing to see that Honda didn’t provide a little more grunt off the assembly line. An output of 235 ponies and 205 pound-feet would have been much more ideal, and it would have gone a long way in balancing out the lineup a little better.

Then again, it creates a strong selling point for the Type R and let’s not forget that the Si is now turbocharged which means it’s probably very tunable. It probably wouldn’t take much to bring it up to par with the Type R if you really wanted to make a few upgrades on your own.

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Inside, the car gets red sport stitching, Si logos, a red TFT display and electronic illumination, aluminum sport pedals, and a few other goodies borrowed from the range-topping non-Si Civic.

But, what do you think of the official figures of the new Si? Are the performance figures that we know of now good enough for you? What kind of mods would you do to squeeze out a little more power? Let us know what you think in the comments section below.

Drivetrain Specifications

Honda Civic Honda Civic Honda Civic Si Honda Civic Type R
Engine 2.0-liter Inline four-cylinder 1.5-liter inline four-cylinder 1.5-liter, directed-injected and turbocharged DOHC in-line 4-cylinder 2.0-liter turbocharged i-VTEC four-cylinder
Horsepower 158 HP @ 6,500 RPM 174 HP @ 6,000 RPM 205 HP @ 1,300 RPM 306 HP @ 6,500 RPM
Torque 138 LB-FT @ 4,200 RPM 162 LB-FT @ 1,700-5,500 RPM 192 LB-FT @ 2,300 RPM 295 LB-FT @ 7,000 RPM
Transmission 6-Speed Manual 6-Speed Manual 6-Speed Manual 6-Speed Manual
Fuel economy 28/40/32 32/42/36 TBA TBA

Press Release

The all-new Honda Civic Si Coupe and Civic Si Sedan debuted today in a global reveal video broadcast on Honda’s YouTube channel at honda.us/2017CivicSiReveal. The exciting and dynamic video features the stylish, personal two-door coupe and sleek, accommodating four-door sedan - both sporty Si variants are designed for the everyday enthusiast. The new Civic Si Sedan and Coupe will go on-sale next month with an MSRP in the mid-$20,000 range.

"The 2017 Honda Civic Si is our first turbocharged Si and sets a new sporty compact benchmark in terms of agility and precise handling while building toward the launch of the Type R as the final chapter in our epic 10th-generation Civic story," said Jeff Conrad, senior vice president automobile division, American Honda.

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Powertrain and chassis
Powering the Civic Si is a high-performance, high-torque 1.5-liter, directed-injected and turbocharged DOHC in-line 4-cylinder engine with dual variable cam timing (dual VTC). Mated to a short-throw, 6-speed manual transmission, the powertrain provides a thrilling new driving experience with more low-end grunt and increased torque output across the engine’s full rev range compared to the previous Si. Peak horsepower of 205 horsepower1 arrives 1300 rpm lower in the rev range, and the increased peak torque of 192 lb-ft2 (+18 lb-ft) is produced 2300 rpm earlier and sustained over 70 percent of the rev range.

Allowing full utilization of the powertrain, the 2017 Civic Si is significantly lighter than the previous generation model and features a more rigid body including highly upgraded chassis and drive components. These upgrades include a dual-pinion adaptive electric power steering system with variable ratios, sport-tuned suspension, an adaptive damper system, a helical limited-slip differential, larger 12.3-inch front brake rotors and wider 235/40 R18 tires with a performance tire option. In addition to adaptive dampers, suspension upgrades include stiffer spring rates, more rigid stabilizer bars (+30 percent front, +60 percent rear), solid front and rear compliance bushings, and ultra-rigid front upper control arms shared with the Civic Type R.

Allowing the driver to choose vehicle power and chassis dynamic characteristics according to their tastes and the driving environment, the 2017 Civic Si now features two driving mode options: Normal and Sport. From the more comfort-oriented yet well controlled default Normal Mode, the Sport Mode adjusts the suspension damping characteristics plus steering and throttle response for a more taut and direct driving experience.

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Sporty design and styling
Upping the sporty style quotient from the standard Civic Sedan and Coupe, the Si models feature an aggressive black "wing" front fascia with larger side air intake features, 18-inch 10-spoke alloy wheels with a model-exclusive two-tone finish, wearing 235mm-wide, low-profile tires, and a chrome center-mounted polygonal exhaust finisher. At the rear, the Si Sedan includes larger side vent features and a deck lid spoiler incorporating a LED brake light. The Si Coupe continues the Civic Coupe’s distinctive full-width light bar and adds a prominent raised spoiler.

The Civic Si interior features Si-exclusive bolstered front sport seats with red stitching, including stitched Si logos. The red sport stitching carries through to the doors, steering wheel and leather shift boot with aluminum shift knob. The Si interior also features a red driver’s TFT meter and audio system illumination, aluminum sport pedals and Dry Metal Carbon instrument panel trim.

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Interior Comfort, Convenience and Connectivity
The new Civic Si variants offers premium comfort and convenience features building off of the EX-T Civic Sedan and EX-T Civic Coupe, including:

Electronic parking brake
Walk away door locking
Dual-zone automatic climate control
Heated front seats
Rain-sensing wipers

Accommodating modern connectivity needs, the new Civic Si also includes a 7-inch Display Audio touchscreen that serves as the nerve center for control of audio, HVAC and other functions. The Display Audio is integrated with Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™ platforms, providing seamless integration of smartphone features and functions, including app-based navigation, streaming audio, voice-controlled search capabilities, and access to a host of Apple- or Google-approved smartphone apps. All Si models feature a 450-watt, 10-speaker AM/FM/CD sound system with SiriusXM® Radio, HD Radio™ and Pandora® capability.

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Safety
The 2017 Civic Si Coupe and Sedan are designed to provide a high level of collision safety performance in a wide variety of collision scenarios, including offset and oblique-angle frontal collisions as well as side and rear impacts. The Civic’s safety performance starts with its class-leading forward visibility and precise, stable and predictable steering, handling and braking performance. Standard four-channel anti-lock brakes (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD), Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA)4 with traction control and Agile Handling Assist further enhance dynamic stability and emergency maneuvering and braking performance. The Civic Si targets the highest NCAP 5-star Overall Vehicle Score.

Manufacturing
The 2017 Civic Si Coupe and Sedan for the U.S. market will be produced at Honda’s plant in Ontario, Canada, using domestic and globally sourced parts. Its engine is produced in Anna, Ohio using domestic and globally sourced parts, at the largest automobile engine plant in Honda’s global production network.

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