When Toyota unveiled the FT-86 concept at the 2009 Tokyo Motor Show they announced the production version would be priced in the $20K area, but a Toyota insider revealed that the mixed Toyota/Subaru sports coupe will cost more than expected. This means that the cheap, entry level sports car that was anticipated will now make the jump to $23K with the range topper climbing to $26K.

How could this happen? It’s pretty simple, really. After convincing the top dogs over at Toyota that they could produce this type of vehicle that would be cheap and have a clean, efficient engine, it seems that the Subaru boxer engine did not live up to its side of the deal. Turns out, the engine is neither clean nor efficient and this little revelation will end up costing Toyota some time and the consumer some money.

Another unexpected turn of events will leave the FT-86 aimed at the target age group of people in their 40s as opposed to the 30s scene that Toyota anticipated. So far that’s 0 for 2 on Toyota’s part. I wouldn’t recommend they gamble anytime soon. They’ve had enough problems.

The Toyota FT-86 is set for production within the next year, with Subaru’s version to follow shortly thereafter. So what do you think, should Toyota still come at us with a production version?


Source: Autocar

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  (399) posted on 07.21.2011

The good thing was they have made improve the exterior of the car. Actually, they haven’t mentioned about the speed performance and it makes me wonder on what will it be. BTW, I guess this car is competing the M1 series.

  (473) posted on 07.21.2011

I bet everyone is waiting for the production of the FT-86. Toyota have made an awesome speed performance for the car as well as its look! I wonder if they bringing this concept in the US market.

  (728) posted on 07.13.2011

If not mistaken, the Subaru is making a version for this model. The sportiness and awesomeness in its speed performance is the selling point of these car.. However, I was thinking if Toyota would compete other brand rather than Subaru.

  (502) posted on 07.13.2011

Well, with the awesome styling and performance of this vehicle no wonder why it cost that much. This car is targeting the BMW 1-Series, it seems that we need to sit back and watch the sales of these two car brands.

  (570) posted on 03.2.2011

I am interested to see HP stats on this car, I was thinking about getting a wrx or an sti. I’m thinking this will lack the power and being a new car could present some problems and kinks that need to be worked out. Yes I do think that $25k is a high price to pay.
But I know that that number was the original perceived price, if it were to come out as a Toyota. How do I know this? It was in one of the original reviews.

  (592) posted on 03.2.2011

Subaru is said to be planning an ‘STI’ version of the coupe, but, more importantly, Subaru is not planning on combining its all-wheel drive symmetry to the car. It won’t compare with the 3-series coupe as that’s quite expensive. It will however compare very well with a manual 125i coupe – about the same size, power and price.
$25K is kinda high considering the Ford Mustang, Chevy Camaro, Dodge Challenger, and Hyundai
Genesis all cost less so why by a Scion over anyone of those models?

Naterade22  (238) posted on 04.27.2010

I totally agree with you Uncia. This car has the possibility to be great and they should take their time to make it perfect. I think they will take their time, mainly because of the overwhelming skepticism from the GM morons and most of unintelligent America.

Uncia  (868) posted on 04.27.2010

I hope they take their time developing this car from a quality standpoint. Late 2011/early 2012 works out well for me because that’s when I would actually be looking at buying one anyway, but that’s an awfully short time to finish all of the performance and quality testing that Toyota has always done in the past. They should have learned recently what comes from taking shortcuts, so I certainly hope they take their time with this one.

Uncia  (798) posted on 04.27.2010

19.000 pound is still very cheap and 19.000 euro even cheaper. You can’t really find a decent fwd hatchback for that money, let alone a rwd coupe.

Uncia  (765) posted on 04.26.2010

Amazing style! Am not expecting this type of car to toyota but they really have it.

Uncia  (379) posted on 04.26.2010

Well, in terms of aggressiveness and sportiness, I’d go for the FT-86. But in terms of Quality and reputation I’ll go for the Cr-Z due to recalls done by toyota.

AK47  (1024) posted on 04.26.2010

23k is not unreasonable for a serious sportscar. The cheapest pure sportscar around at this moment is the 370Z and it is more than 30k. I have to agree with Uncia, they should lower the price by eliminating all the silly features or at least offer it as an option. Make it hardcore, like the EVOs of before.

And this is a Subaru engine, its not supposed to be clean. Its supposed to make gobs of power on stock injectors.

Uncia  (868) posted on 04.25.2010

And the price is plenty reasonable; show me another $23K sportscar that hits 60 mph in under 6 seconds.

Uncia  (868) posted on 04.25.2010

The CRZ isn’t even as fast as a Prius; it isn’t a sportscar. If you want a sporty vehicle that’s great on gas, buy the Civic.

Uncia  (321) posted on 04.25.2010

it’s price is not that reasonable for the car, if I were given a chance to choose between FT-86 and CR-Z of course I pick the CR-z.

Uncia  (340) posted on 04.25.2010

Well I guess you right, CR-z has already sold out in japan on it’s first lauch on the market.

Uncia  (868) posted on 04.22.2010

No, Toyota did not, does not, and will not market this against the CRZ. The FT-86 does not compete with the CRZ—the CRZ takes 10.5 seconds to hit 60 mph; the FT-86 does it in under six. The FT-86 is a real sportscar, whereas that POS Honda is little more than a gussied-up Civic hybrid. These cars do not compete with one another in the slightest, so stop comparing them.

Uncia  (428) posted on 04.22.2010

Toyota planned to compete this with CR-Z. I tell you now the FT-86 has no chance to out sell the Honda Cr-Z.

Naterade22  (238) posted on 04.21.2010

Exactly. Like I said, the idea was great, but all the pieces have kind of fallen apart instead of fitting together. It could have been a perfect car for the price, but I feel it is a let down.

Uncia  (868) posted on 04.21.2010

They should use the 200 bhp supercharged 4-cylinder from the tC TRD. That, put together with the car’s rear-drive setup and 2300 lb curb weight should make for a pretty exiting little coupe with just over 30 mpg, and they wouldn’t have to spend the development cost on a new engine. They should also keep the base price low by eliminating such features as power windows, automatic climate control and rain-sensing windshield wipers, things that even cheap Toyotas like the Corolla come with nowadays. I mean, seriously, who needs these things in a sports car?

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