Porsche 960 Could Be Delayed Until 2026
Every automaker has its unicorn. It’s the car that’s been rumored to be built for quite some time but has yet to happen for one reason or another. For Porsche, that model could very well be the 960, the two-seater, mid-engine sports car that the company touts as its answer to whatever Ferrari has on its roster. It’s supposed to slot between the range-topping Porsche 911 Turbo S and the Porsche 918 Spyder and the last we heard about it is that it was scheduled to be released in 2019. Well, according to Automotive News, that timetable is now unlikely to be met.
A source close to the situation even told the news site that production for the 960 has been pushed back to 2026. That’s a significant amount of time that legitimately puts into question the status of the 960. Will it still be a part of Porsche’s plans in five years? Will it be scrapped entirely at some point? These are the questions that are being asked and you can be sure that more questions will arise the longer the wait for the 960 becomes.
What’s clear at this point is that the 960, like other models under the Volkswagen umbrella, has become the unwitting victim of the diesel emissions scandal that has overwhelmed the German auto conglomerate. Volkswagen CEO Matthias Mueller has already announced plans to push back or cancel some models in light of the scandal and it appears that the 960 is one of them. Even if Porsche gets the green light from the VW to finally start production of the 960, there’s no telling when that’s going to be. Don’t expect it to happen anytime soon since high-profile models like the 960 usually cost a lot of time and money to develop. Unfortunately, those are two things are in short supply as the Volkswagen Group navigates through the dieselgate mess.
So for now, let’s just sit back and wait and see what becomes of the Porsche 960. 2026 is still 10 year away and there’s no telling what’s going to become of Porsche in the years to come.
Note: Porsche 918 Spyder pictured here.
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Is The Porsche 960 Finally Coming To Fruition?
The Porsche rumor mill has been hot and heavy these days with speculations on a handful of models that Stuttgart may or not build in the future. But one model, one specific model, has stayed on the backburner for the better part of five years. Other than a report from 2015 stating that Porsche had filed trademarks for this model, there hasn’t been a lot of discussion about it. Well, British auto magazine Car believes it may have found the keys to the long-rumored Porsche 960.
According to Car, the Porsche 960 is a real vehicle that Porsche plans to unleash in 2019, eight years after such a model was first reported. The long wait for the car has been attributed to a number of reasons, but what’s important is that there have been strong hints recently from Porsche that it’s ready to proceed with the development of the mid-engined supercar that is expected to slot between the 911 Turbo S and the flagship 918 Spyder. The anticipated timetable means that Porsche will have enough time to roll out the next-generation 911, reportedly named the “992,” before introducing the 960.
Scheduling aside, not much is known about the 960, but Car is reporting that the model will use a structure made primarily of aluminum. High-strength steel, titanium and composites are also expected to be part of the 960’s physical make-up, all of which should play a part in meeting the car’s target weight of 1,400 kg (3,086 pounds). Since it’s being prepared as one of Porsche’s premium models, all sighs point to the 960 receiving the latest in Porsche technology. There’s no telling what those tech features are, but there’s a chance that we’ll see the latest Porsche multimedia system, active aerodynamics, and the rotary drive mode selector, among other tech bits.
On the engine front, the current intel is that Porsche is planning to drop a 650-horsepower 3.9-liter quad-turbocharged flat-eight engine on the 960. While that seems like a stretch to imagine today, there are reports that such an engine is already being tested out on a Porsche Cayman. If this part of the rumor mill proves to be true, it would not only represent a dramatic shift in powertrain options for its future lineup.
Granted, Porsche has used flat-eights in the past, most notably on the 907s and 908 racers from the 60’s and 70’s, and though we haven’t seen this type of engine from Porsche in recent years, using it on the 960 would give the automaker the opportunity to go all-out on fitting the supercar with never-before-used technology. One such tech that’s being thrown around is the automaker’s new “VarioCom” system, which essentially provides the engine the opportunity to increase its potency through the use of higher compression on low revs while also reducing emissions, improving response times, and receiving better fuel economy.
Needless to say, all these tidbits about the Porsche 960 have received no confirmation from Porsche and it’s unlikely that the automaker will do any confirming at least until 2017.
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Most of you know that Porsche is preparing a new sports car that will take on models from Ferrari, which is evident by its internal name of "FeFi" ("Ferrari fighter"). Previous rumors suggested that the next 960 will be offered with a high-output flat-six engine with an output of 600 horsepower, but new details suggest that Porsche will move upmarket and target models like Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and the Lamborghini Aventador.
In order to deliver the extra power, Porsche decided to use a boxer eight-cylinder engine featuring four turbochargers, two intercoolers, four adjustable camshafts, a complex multistage intake manifold and dual-stage exhaust. As a result, the engine will likely deliver 650 horsepower. Sure, that’s a little less than the 740 horsepower offered by its Italian competitor, but maybe Porsche will find a solution for this problem.
The engine will be mated to a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission and will sprint the car from 0 to 60 mph in a rumored 2.5 seconds.
The next 960 will featuring an aluminum-intensive architecture combined with carbon fiber, magnesium, titanium and much more in an attempt to keep weight down to about 3,000 pounds.
Porsche plans to build 3,000 to 4,000 units a year and production will start in 2017.
All we had on the future Porsche 961 supercar so far were rumors of its existence. Now, Porsche CEO Matthias Muller has finally confirmed that the company is indeed working on a new supercar, to be placed between the 911 GT2 RS and the upcoming 918 Spyder. It will be targeting models like the Ferrari 458 Italia.
Muller didn’t offer a name for the upcoming supercar, but it is believed that it will indeed carry the 961 nomenclature. As for its design language, you should expect a mix of the future 918 Spyder and the recently announced Panamera Sport Turismo concept.
The future 961 will borrow lots of technology from the 918 Spyder, including its lightweight carbon fiber-reinforced plastic monocoque chassis. but while the 918 Spyder combines a 4.6 liter V8 engine with electric motors, the 961 will just borrow the 4.6-liter V8 engine. This engine will deliver around 570 HP and will sprint the car from 0 to 60 mph in just 3 seconds.
This type of performance will come at us with a price of £250,000, or around $400k at the current exchange rates.
With Volkswagen buying out the rest of Porsche, there are definitely some changes afoot, but for the most part, the changes are going to be the same as we have known since before the buyout, err, “corporate restructuring.” The production line, fortunately, will not change under the new ownership, and we felt it was time to outline what Porsche has in store for us in the coming years.
The Pajun has been one of the most on-and-off models recently, as was the baby Boxster. The baby Boxster is all but eliminated from consideration, but the Pajun looks to be a distant possibility. Also in design and testing phase are the 918 Spyder and Macan models.
In planning we have “Project 960,” which is Porsche’s potential answer to Ferrari. This is far and away the most intriguing of the group, as it’s something that Porsche has lacked since its inception.
While many Porsche enthusiasts may complain about their beloved automaker expanding its lineup, it is clear that this expansion is to allow the super-exclusive automaker to hit its goal of 200,000 new vehicle sales by 2018. That is a rather lofty goal, but with controlled lineup expansion and no reduction in quality, this is attainable.
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It goes without saying that Porsche has extremely ambitious plans for the future. Not only does Porsche want to almost double annual sales to over 200,000 in the next 6 years, it also plans to rapidly expand its current line-up with the addition of the 918 Spyder, junior-Cayenne or Cajun, a new sports car to compete with the Ferrari 458 Italia, and possibly a baby-Boxster and baby-Panamera. And if Automobile Magazine is to be believed, the expansion won’t stop there.
According to rumors ignited by Automobile Magazine, Porsche is currently working on a brand new four-door coupe to rival the Ferrari FF, currently codenamed the “FeFi,” or ‘Ferrari Fighter’. If these reports hold water, the possible Porsche 960 would be mid-engined and feature a fuel-efficient yet extremely powerful twin-turbo flat-six motor delivering upwards of 650HP if Porsche really wants to rival the 670HP Ferrari FF.
Very little else is known about this car, except for the remarkable fact that it could be built around the new universal MSB platform being developed by the Volkswagen group which would also underpin any possible VW BlueSport spin-offs, the Lamborghini Aventador’s successor, and possibly even the next-generation Porsche Cayman.
One curious thing to note about the Porsche 960 is that it’s being strictly called a coupe and a mid-engined sports car, so how Porsche plans to fit a flat-six engine in the middle of the car while keeping coupe proportions and adding two additional seats is anyone’s guess, but it’s definitely an intriguing concept.
If this car does in fact make it to production, don’t expect to see it in showrooms until late 2015.
Please note the car pictured is the upcoming 2014 Porsche 961.
When Porsche announced plans for a new supercar that will take on models like the Ferrari 458 Italia, it was believed that the new model would be built on an entirely new platform. Apparently, Porsche was forced to change its plans because Volkswagen is suggesting that the company use the same platform as the next Audi R8. The logical explanation behind it is that Volkswagen thinks the next R8 platform will provide a suitable architecture for the Porsche, but really it all comes down to saving some cash on development.
Porsche is dead-set on using a bespoke platform, but if they do, they may be delaying the release of their new sports car to about 2020, alongside the third generation of the R8 and Gallardo. That long wait may be the only reason Porsche decides to give in to Volkswagen and use the R8’s underpinnings. The market may lose interest in the vehicle if they are forced to wait that long.
Regardless of Porsche’s decision, the new Audi R8 facelift will be headed to the 2012 Geneva Motor Show for its unveiling. The car will receive both exterior and interior updates, as well as an increase in power. The base 4.2L V8 will jump to 444 HP from the current 424 HP and the 5.2L V10 will be tuned to deliver 533 HP, up from the current 518 HP.
Hold on to your seats, Porsche fans. There may be something brewing in Stuttgart that will completely change the landscape of Porsche in the coming years.
According to the German site, AutoBild.de, the German automaker is working on a completely new model called the Porsche 961. By now bells should be ringing in the heads of hardcore motorsports fans who remember a certain 961 racer that did a brief stint in the 80s. The old 961 only ran a total of three races - 24 Hours of Lemans, Camel GT Championship, and Lemans once again - before it experienced some technical difficulties and was laid to rest in the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart.
The 961 racer from the 80s was modeled after Porsche’s 959 sports car, but the newest rendition is rumored to be a V8-powered flagship car that takes after the Porsche 918 and will be slotted above the iconic 911. Details are still sketchy at this point, but rumors are that the 961 has been tagged under the internal code ’9X1’ and in addition to having a powerful engine, the car could also be built as a hybrid, with an electric motor providing additional power to the car to the tune of somewhere around 600 horsepower.
Rumored price tag for the upcoming Porsche 961 has been pegged at somewhere in the neighborhood of €200,000, which is a little under $300,000 based on current exchange rates. The flagship coupe is also expected to make its official debut in 2013, giving us enough time to digest all this information and build up the hype of what is you can bet is going to be Porsche’s new crown jewel.
UPDATE 09/27/2011: British magazine, CAR, has set up some new rumors about the upcoming Porsche supercar which will be placed between the current 911 and the upcoming 918. It seems that the new Ferrari 458 Italia competitor will be codenamed project 960 and will be built on Volkswagen Group’s new Mimo platform. The new 960 will have nothing in common with the 918 Spyder and will use the same components as the future facelifted 911. You won’t see a twin-turbo V8 engine under the hood either; instead Porsche will use a twin-turbo 3.8-liter boxer engine with an output of about 600bhp and 550 lb-ft of torque. Porsche will offer both coupe and roadster versions and prices will start from €200,000, or $270,000 at the current exchange rates. (CAR)
It was only yesterday that Porsche CEO, Matthias Mueller, officially confirmed the brand’s plans for a future Ferrari rival, but already there are rumors flying around about the future sports car. During the unveiling of the new Porsche 911/991, Wolfgang Hatz (Porsche Head of Research and Development) revealed that a flat-eight boxer engine is being considered for the future Ferrari rival.
This new option stems from Porsche engineers’ angst over not being able to take the 911’s flat-six engine past 4.0 liters. Moving to a flat-8 would be the next logical step considering Porsche’s major competition - Ferrari - currently dominates the market in this price segment with its V8-powered sportscars. That alone would be enough for Porsche to develop a new eight cylinder engine, but the company also feels the switch would be necessary if they plan to successfully differentiate the new model from both the 911 and the next-generation Cayman.
The new flat-8 engine should be an easy development for Porsche because the company has already created a turbocharged flat-four engine that will be dropped into a future entry level roadster. This engine is modular and can be extended into the next-generation flat-6 and flat-8. Porsche also has a history with the flat-8 engine. Back in the late 1960’s, Porsche built an air-cooled 1.5L flat-8 for Formula One that extended to a 3.0 L version for the Porsche 908 in 1968. That engine was able to pump out 300 HP back then, making a competitor for the 458 Italia’s 570 HP V8 an attainable goal.
When created, the new engine will be mated to an updated version of the Carrera GT’s ultra-compact transmission.
In an interview with Car and Driver, Porsche CEO, Matthias Mueller, recently confirmed the production of a new supercar to be slotted between the 911 and the 918. Now the head honcho is making it even more official with an official confirmation of the new model ready to tackle the competition; here’s looking at you, Ferrari 458 Italia.
In his statement, Mueller said, "It always irritated me that the (most expensive) 911 tops out at 250,000 euros ($360,000) and then the 918 continues starting at 750,000 euros ($1,080,000). In between, Ferrari cavorts around relatively comfortably and without any competition. That is where we need to be. There is still space for a larger sports car, one like the 959 that we built in the 1980s."
The new Porsche model will be priced between 250,000 euros ($360,000) and 400,000 euros ($580,000), and it will be the eighth model in Porsche’s future line-up. It will join the current four models as well as the upcoming small mid-engine roadster patterned on the 550 Spyder, the smaller SUV dubbed the Cajun, and a smaller version of the Panamera GT. The new Porsche supercar, along with the brand’s other new models, will help seal the deal in Porsche’s attempt to boost annual global sales to more than 200,000 units by 2018.
Image is a rendering of what we think this new supercar will be, the 2013 Porsche 961.
A few weeks ago, we reported about a possible Porsche 961 and now, in an interview with Car And Driver, Porsche CEO Matthias Müller has confirmed that the company indeed has plans to build a new supercar to be placed between the 911 and the 918.
Matthias Müller admitted that there would be room for a mid-engine sports car above the 911 and that this model would fit "in a price segment of 400,000 euros." He also added that this car has good chances of being built.
The new model will target the Ferrari 458 Italia and will use many components from the upcoming "modular sports architecture." This is the same architecture that will be used for next generation of Audi, Lamborghini, and Porsche sports cars. Under the hood, Porsche will place a 600 HP engine that will sprint the car from 0 to 60 mph in the three-to-four-second range, while top speed will be in the 200 mph area.
Does this sound like the Porsche 961 to anyone else?